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The Messthetics and James Brandon Lewis: At Tonal Park

BY Sam Retzer PHOTOGRAPHS BY Shervin Lainez
The Messthetics And James Brandon Lewis Album Artwork

What happens when you combine the rhythmic backbone of Fugazi veterans Joe Lally (bass) and Brendan Canty (drums, Tape Op #12) with the soaring heights of James Brandon Lewis' sax, and douse it all with the guitar pyrotechnics of Anthony Pirog? What if you put those guys inside Tonal Park, the expansive studios in Tacoma Park, MD, designed by Sam Berkow of SIA Acoustics? What if up and coming engineer Don Godwin captured such great sounds and performances in two days that the album hardly needed any mixing? Lucky for us, this all transpired to bring forth the scorching and funky The Messthetics and James Brandon Lewis, out now on Impulse! Records. I spoke with the band over Zoom about the creation of the record and making music the old fashion way: By playing it.

James, you initially sat in with the band at the Winter Jazz Fest here in New York, and that led to you featuring them on "Fear Not" from your ANTI- records debut Eye of I.

JBL: We recorded that with Shahzad Ismaily [Tape Op #151] at his Figure 8 Studio in Brooklyn. I've known Anthony for a decade now, and we've collaborated with William Hooker and various ensembles. That was my entry to meeting Brendan and Joe, which led to us playing together at Winter Jazz 2019. So, I've some skin in the game. [laughs] ANTI- had asked me if I was interested in doing a song with anyone, and I thought about these cats. I love the energy that Joe and Brendan play with, and Anthony and I have developed such a rapport. Our sounds just fit with each other. I'm old school; if the bassist and drummer get along, it's about to be a good band!

The new album features so many cool unison "heads" between the sax and guitar. Were those worked out ahead of time with you and Anthony in New York?

JBL: We all got together and had ideas for the record. I'm from Buffalo but I went to Howard University, and a lot of my family relocated to the DC area. It was all worked out collectively, in a really beautiful way. I haven't been in too many situations where it came together so naturally.

Where in DC were you working on the new material?

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