Tell us about your studio environment.
We've had a proper external studio space for about 3 years. It's really cheap and it's in north London. We bought a big old analog desk fairly recently because they've come down in price so much...
What kind?
It's a Soundtracs Quartz. It's a late '80s/early '90s desk but it's got very good EQ and a very nice patch bay on it. We run so much stuff through the computer now that it's good to have an analog in to it all. We've been recording for so long we've got a fairly decent collection of analog synths, too. A few of them are getting a bit dusty now because we're using a lot more software these days.
What kind of software are you using?
We've used Logic Audio for a few years and we use all the kinds of plug-in stuff you can get for it... the various kinds of softsynths. We use Reaktor a little bit, and any little interesting bits of software we can get our hands on, really. We're not that radical with our sound design... if we like an electric keyboard sound we'll just use an electric keyboard sound. But I like the fact that you can build a synth from the bottom up. You can actually design your own synth, say in Reaktor, which would obviously not be possible with hardware, well, it would take years to design and build it so... that's the ease of it, the customization of it, really.
Are most of the sounds you use built from the ground up or are they samples?
We don't design all our sounds, we'll use acoustic sounds and found sounds, we may even use presets sometimes if they fit... it's about how it sounds.
Do you play instruments yourselves?
We can both play keyboards very badly... Andy plays flugelhorn, he learned that when he was young... he plays brass a little bit. But no, we're not technically very good players — it's all kind of computer-aided.
So where do you get the lovely clean guitar melodies in songs like "Ralome" [from Rest Proof Clockwork] and "Kortisen" [from Not For Threes] or is that a trade secret?
That's a friend we've known for a few years. We write with him sometimes. He's really into this baroque, medieval thing and we've got a real fondness for that kind of "oldey" "Greensleeves" vibe.
Speaking of "oldey" sounds I noticed the opening keyboard figure on "Shackbu" sounds like something from Gentle Giant...
Okay, yeah, that's ahh... well, most of our stuff is played, we don't really work with melodic loops. We might work with rythmical loops but all the melodic stuff is played.
I didn't mean to imply you'd stolen the melody...
No, no, I'm just saying that would have been probably a FS1-R [Yamaha sound module], like a DX piano sound through a pedal or something...
But the actual melodic structure is reminiscent of that particular era of prog rock...
Oh, I know what you mean, yeah...
Do you have any influences from that sometimes dense and ponderous music?
