We're here in the new studio [N.J. Rec. Rm.] so maybe you want to tell us about that first. What inspired you to build your own studio?
Well, this is actually the same room where we did A Prayer for Every Hour in '94 on just a 4-track. It's the same room we've always practiced and prepared in and actually done some other tracking for some other albums. Back then it was a matter of moving boxes out of the way and cleaning the room before we would set up for a practice. And then ask my mom to not sew upstairs while we were trying to do some quiet vocals. There was just junk everywhere. I'd been doing recording on that [Tascam] 388 over the past couple of years. You have to try and get everybody to be quiet and then when I got a little bit nicer microphones you could still hear the cars driving by and all that stuff.
What did you record on the 388?
A third of each Tri-Danielson!!! record, the one that was entitled Bro. Danielson, so the kind of more down home sound was done on the 388.
Did you mix it with the built-in mixer?
Yeah. [laughing] Just straight to DAT. I've been wanting to get a more controlled environment and was looking around at places in the area. We all grew up in this house, all the kids are moved out now and so my parents gave me this side of the house. We ripped the ceilings out and put in all new ductwork and put two layers of 5/8'' sheet rock in the ceiling so my mom can actually sew upstairs and we can record down here. There's a faint vibration of the sewing machine but it's okay. I love it because it's the same place where we've written everything and, like I said, recorded some stuff. So now I'm writing and getting ready to do two new Danielson full lengths and an EP. And we have our own record label [Sounds Familyre] so we're doing all kinds of other projects as well.
Do you think maybe in twenty years you'll still be in this room?
I actually hope to build a building in the side yard over here. I already have it planned out. We're going to dig down and have these underground bunkers two stories down so that from the outside it looks like a humble little one floor but it will go down a couple of floors unless we hit water. [laughing]
You said you're a carpenter. Did you build this studio on your own?
Pretty much. My dad and my brother Dave helped a lot putting up the ceiling.
Did you have any models in mind or acoustic treatments?
No, we just tried to keep from hearing the sewing machine upstairs, that was the first step. This floor was really poorly built. It was really squeaky. That's another reason why I ripped the ceiling out. I glued every single rafter and then screwed the floor down upstairs and I insulated it like mad.
But it still has a nice live sound?
Yeah, it sounds so much better than it did before. The biggest thing was taking all the metal ductwork out of the ceiling. I replaced it with this sort of insulated ductwork, the coil stuff. There's a lot of light, a good view. It's half underground so it's pretty soundproof from outside, except for the windows, which I found out how to build boxes for. It's quiet here, there's hardly any traffic. Birds are the biggest problem and they're not such a problem, anyway. There's birds on all sorts of Danielson recordings. Actually this was another room, the control room, and we took out this portion and put in a wall here and put in a door and a window.
Did you choose analog because of preference or because of price? Are you planning on putting any computers in your setup at all?
I have a computer in there. I have the 16-track 1", the [Tascam] MS-16 and I have the Pro Tools [Digi] 001 together. I'm trying to make them become friends, that's the battle right now. We just started here with the 16-track, that's a new member of the family. And I'm slowly acquiring things. I'm getting a Soundcraft board from Rafter Roberts in San Diego, a 16-channel. I'll use that to track as much as I can onto the reel- to-reel. Then the thing I'm extremely nervous about is transferring that. The 001 converters are pretty weak. I've had people recommend a rack of eight converters you can get, but the thing is I still only have eight good converters and eight not so good ones.
Any good preamps?
No, the Soundcraft board I'm getting I figure would be the cheapest way to get 16 pretty decent preamps. And just use that for tracking. I'm still gathering. It's a slow and steady process.
Are you going to mix on Pro Tools?
That's another thing. I've mixed a lot on Pro Tools 'cause usually I would track to the 388 and then dump that in and then add tracks. The albums I've been working on the past year or two were done that way. The 388 is a great thing. I'm still unsure if I want to run stuff back out through the board and mix that way, which some people like. I read all these theories and then just do what I like. I'm a little suspicious of this bounce to disc thing. I can't help but think it gets flat.
Tell me what kind of equipment you have.